Cape Council of Policy
581
1678-05-07
Minute details
- Entry number
- 581
- Date
- 1678-05-07
- Year
- 1678
English translation
Presentibus omnibus exempt, the E. Captain Dircq Jansz Smient, due to a sudden illness, remained absent.
The Council, summoned by the Lord Governor of this residence, was primarily to await (after the messenger had already confirmed one of our consultations) whether some persons, since the presence of the last return ships here, had something to request. Therefore, a good number of persons appeared in Council, whom they requested very promptly, since the time had fully expired, to be allowed to repatriate on the aforementioned return ships, as well as some others to be employed de novo with meritorious wages in the service of the E. Compe. accepted, So by the Governor and Council, such as whose reckoning was found to be good and their time fully expired, were licensed thereto upon their iterative application, and in turn other suitable servants were favored at her request with the appropriate reward under the ordinary association, and noted in Council, they also exposed some impotent ones from the hospital, remaining on the passing and repairing vessels here, to the great expense and interest of our Lord Masters, especially of such who through laziness enjoyed the refreshments there, but only seek to retain them, including some who noticeably deficient in the service of the E. Compe. and also have gotten beyond that and where by completely due to the lack of their necessary members and health have become incapacitated, And subsequently immediately requested to be allowed to go to the Country to see if they could reach their previous health, The Governor and Council have seen and considered this, that such impotent people in India generally spend their monthly wages on it to the relief of the Comps. at heavy expense. were debited, as was also considered not unreasonable here in those matters, for at least some recognition was shown, always to alleviate as much as possible the lazy nature among some who hide there. So, after careful deliberation, a consensus was reached on this matter, and it was found good to license the disabled person here to a burden and incapable of any service, regardless of the time for which it had not expired, upon her request to license the fatherland without any tax, namely as her unfitness and disability in the service of the E. Compe. here have received here, but such who remain year and day in the aforementioned hospital of the passing and re-passing soils20 to the great interest of the E. Compe. to discuss, after the monthly payment of her winning salary, half of her dues, as the hospital administrators sometimes learn that it is not entirely serious and therefore deserve some tax.
Saturday, the 7th of the following Thursday.
The Council met again and, having convened to summarize the Dutch papers and letters in response to Their Honor, the Lords, the Directors, Your Highness, kindly sent a letter to have everything that may be circumstantially noted and contained therein, which should be advised to Their Honor, the aforementioned. These were read carefully in Council, and after the reading, the Governor asked whether anyone deemed it necessary to do so, either in the service of Our Lords Major, or otherwise. Therefore, after everyone had made their views known, the answer was no, and it was decided to remain with the aforementioned matter.
In the middle of the meeting, all the skippers of the second return vessel moored here appeared, along with our crew chief (and chief carpenter, after having been previously requested to do so by the Governor), submitting certain statements regarding their inspection of the yacht Pouleron by the aforementioned E.E. officer, and noting that the skipper of the yacht Pouleron insisted, since a slightly overloaded, and for fear of some leakage on the further voyage, that a little of its overloaded cargo might be relieved here, despite the fact that, according to the statements of the other skippers sailing in company, it has been established that during the voyage from Batavia to this point, it was possible to sail properly and also sailed, and that on occasion it had been seen pumping, but from the said skipper on March 7th (after inspection) he understood that it could still sail quite well, as also appears from the statements made by the crew chief and master carpenter, who passed by them aforesaid, that during the careful inspection, not the slightest leakage could be detected, but that something above her was containing a proper load. And we add this to our list having carefully considered and taken into consideration names and this above account is everyone's opinion as is further demonstrated by the numerous testimonies submitted thereof.Vgl. the attestasie van die skeepsoffisiere van dieals nu genoegsaem dat is kleinwegig or no peril attached to it, as having now also passed the perilous sea and the hollow water, So it is that the Governor and Council, also because of the great bulk attached to it, have with good deliberation decided to let the cargo, which is however modest enough and would be desirable to be larger, remain entirely in the said bottom as the same from Batavia was shipped there, since the necessity thereto is not so urgent yet, and considering that the private goods a necessitate thereby being thrown out, that bottom shall not be overloaded in any way. It is further considered good (after some goods have previously been stowed away and cleared in such a way that, in case of urgent necessity, bales and pumps can be used simultaneously) to seriously instruct the chiefs of that soil to throw all private goods and chests overboard in the event of a storm or inclement weather, if any danger is encountered, and to offer them to Neptune for the safety of the cargo. And whatever else is necessary for the well-being of our Lords and Masters should be done in hope that, through God's all-wise and mighty guidance, the ports of our dear fatherland will be well-supplied without disaster.
Thus resolved and decreed in the Ford of Good Hope on the day and year aforesaid.
[Signed:] J. BAX g.v. HERENTAL[S]
[Signed:] CRUDOP.
[Signed:] J. CRUSE.
[Signed:] Ms. VAN BANCHEM, Secrets.
The Council, summoned by the Lord Governor of this residence, was primarily to await (after the messenger had already confirmed one of our consultations) whether some persons, since the presence of the last return ships here, had something to request. Therefore, a good number of persons appeared in Council, whom they requested very promptly, since the time had fully expired, to be allowed to repatriate on the aforementioned return ships, as well as some others to be employed de novo with meritorious wages in the service of the E. Compe. accepted, So by the Governor and Council, such as whose reckoning was found to be good and their time fully expired, were licensed thereto upon their iterative application, and in turn other suitable servants were favored at her request with the appropriate reward under the ordinary association, and noted in Council, they also exposed some impotent ones from the hospital, remaining on the passing and repairing vessels here, to the great expense and interest of our Lord Masters, especially of such who through laziness enjoyed the refreshments there, but only seek to retain them, including some who noticeably deficient in the service of the E. Compe. and also have gotten beyond that and where by completely due to the lack of their necessary members and health have become incapacitated, And subsequently immediately requested to be allowed to go to the Country to see if they could reach their previous health, The Governor and Council have seen and considered this, that such impotent people in India generally spend their monthly wages on it to the relief of the Comps. at heavy expense. were debited, as was also considered not unreasonable here in those matters, for at least some recognition was shown, always to alleviate as much as possible the lazy nature among some who hide there. So, after careful deliberation, a consensus was reached on this matter, and it was found good to license the disabled person here to a burden and incapable of any service, regardless of the time for which it had not expired, upon her request to license the fatherland without any tax, namely as her unfitness and disability in the service of the E. Compe. here have received here, but such who remain year and day in the aforementioned hospital of the passing and re-passing soils20 to the great interest of the E. Compe. to discuss, after the monthly payment of her winning salary, half of her dues, as the hospital administrators sometimes learn that it is not entirely serious and therefore deserve some tax.
Saturday, the 7th of the following Thursday.
The Council met again and, having convened to summarize the Dutch papers and letters in response to Their Honor, the Lords, the Directors, Your Highness, kindly sent a letter to have everything that may be circumstantially noted and contained therein, which should be advised to Their Honor, the aforementioned. These were read carefully in Council, and after the reading, the Governor asked whether anyone deemed it necessary to do so, either in the service of Our Lords Major, or otherwise. Therefore, after everyone had made their views known, the answer was no, and it was decided to remain with the aforementioned matter.
In the middle of the meeting, all the skippers of the second return vessel moored here appeared, along with our crew chief (and chief carpenter, after having been previously requested to do so by the Governor), submitting certain statements regarding their inspection of the yacht Pouleron by the aforementioned E.E. officer, and noting that the skipper of the yacht Pouleron insisted, since a slightly overloaded, and for fear of some leakage on the further voyage, that a little of its overloaded cargo might be relieved here, despite the fact that, according to the statements of the other skippers sailing in company, it has been established that during the voyage from Batavia to this point, it was possible to sail properly and also sailed, and that on occasion it had been seen pumping, but from the said skipper on March 7th (after inspection) he understood that it could still sail quite well, as also appears from the statements made by the crew chief and master carpenter, who passed by them aforesaid, that during the careful inspection, not the slightest leakage could be detected, but that something above her was containing a proper load. And we add this to our list having carefully considered and taken into consideration names and this above account is everyone's opinion as is further demonstrated by the numerous testimonies submitted thereof.Vgl. the attestasie van die skeepsoffisiere van dieals nu genoegsaem dat is kleinwegig or no peril attached to it, as having now also passed the perilous sea and the hollow water, So it is that the Governor and Council, also because of the great bulk attached to it, have with good deliberation decided to let the cargo, which is however modest enough and would be desirable to be larger, remain entirely in the said bottom as the same from Batavia was shipped there, since the necessity thereto is not so urgent yet, and considering that the private goods a necessitate thereby being thrown out, that bottom shall not be overloaded in any way. It is further considered good (after some goods have previously been stowed away and cleared in such a way that, in case of urgent necessity, bales and pumps can be used simultaneously) to seriously instruct the chiefs of that soil to throw all private goods and chests overboard in the event of a storm or inclement weather, if any danger is encountered, and to offer them to Neptune for the safety of the cargo. And whatever else is necessary for the well-being of our Lords and Masters should be done in hope that, through God's all-wise and mighty guidance, the ports of our dear fatherland will be well-supplied without disaster.
Thus resolved and decreed in the Ford of Good Hope on the day and year aforesaid.
[Signed:] J. BAX g.v. HERENTAL[S]
[Signed:] CRUDOP.
[Signed:] J. CRUSE.
[Signed:] Ms. VAN BANCHEM, Secrets.
Original Dutch transcription
Presentibus omnibus exempt den E. capiteijn Dircq Jansz Smient door schielijcke toeval van sieckte absent gebleven.
Den Raat door den Heere Gouverneur deser residentie bij een geroepen sijnde, ten principalen omme af te wachten (na dat alvoorens door de boode meest ijder een van onse raadspleginge verstendigt is geweest) off oocq eenige persoonen vermits de tegenwoordigheijt van de laaste retourschepen alhier iets hadden te versoecken, des sijn in Raade verscheenen een goeden nomber persoonen dewelcke seer instantelijck versochten, vermits volcome tijtsexpiratie, om te moogen met voors. retourbodems repatrieeren als mede wederom eenige om de novo met meriterende opslach van gagie te werden in den dienst der E.Compe. aangenoomen, Soo sijn door den Gouverneur en Raat de sodanige op welckers reecq. te goet en hare tijt volcomen g’expireert bevonden is, op haare iterativen solicitatien daartoe gelicentieert ende wederom andere bequame dienaeren op haar versoeck met de daartoe staande belooningh onder ‘t ordinaire verbandt begunstight, ende gemerct in Rade haar mede hebben verthoont eenige impotente uijt het hospitael, blijvende van de passeerende en repasseerende bodems alhier overleggen tot groote laste en intreste van onse Heere Meesters, wel voornamentlijck van de soodanige die door luijigheijt door ‘t goet genoth van de ververssinge aldaer, haar maar soecken op te houwden waaronder oocq eenige die merckelijcke gebreecken in den dienst der E. Compe. en oock daar buijten hebben gecregen en waar door gansch door ‘t ontbeeren haerer vereijssende leden en gesontheijt onbequaem geworden sijn, En vervolgens instantigh versocht om te moogen in ‘t Patria gaan sien off tot haar voorige gesontheijt cunnen geraecken, Soo is bij den Gouverneur en Raadt sulcx ingesien ende geconsidereert de soodanige impotenten, in India doorgaens tot soulaes van ‘s Comps. sware oncosten haare maendelijcksen gagie daermede in schieten en op reeck. werden gedebiteert, gelijck alhier mede in dier voegen niet onredelijck dan werden geoordeelt, daarvoor ten minsten eenige recognitie wierde betoont, altijt om den luijen aart onder sommige schuijlende, soo veel mogelijck te verminderen, Soo is na goede overlegh een parigh daarop geresolveert, en goet gevonden de gebreckelige hier tot laste en onbequaem tot eenigen dienst, ongeacht derselver tijt niet is geexpireert, op haar versoecq na ‘t vaderlant te licentieeren buijten eenige belastinge, namentlijck soo haare ongesontheijt en gebreecklijckheijt in den dienst der E. Compe. hier ter plaatse hebben gecregen, maar de soodanige die jaer en dach in voorseijde hospitael van de passerende en repasserende bodems20 blijven tot groote intereste der E.Compe. overleggen, na ‘t montant van haare winnende gagie maendelijcx voor de helfte op haare reecq., alsoo de meesters van ‘t hospitael somwijl vernemen het met eenige niet al te rechten ernst is, en oversulcx wel eenige belastinge meriteeren.
Saturdagh den 7en do. daaraanvolgende.
Den Raat wederom vergadert en bij een gecomen sijnde omme te resumeeren de vaderlantse papieren en missiven ten antwoorde van haer Edle. d.Heeren Bewinthebberen Hoogh geeert schrijven gedirigeert om off al het geene in deselve wel circumstantelijck mocht wesen genoteert en vervath dat aan haer Edle. voornt. nootsaeckelijck diende geadviseert. Des sijn deselve in Rade met aandacht gelesen en na gedane lecture is door den Gouverneur ront gevraegt off ijmandt oordeelde ten dienste van onse Heeren Maijores daar noch diende bij off aff gedaan te moeten werden, Soo is (na dat ijder ‘t sijne hadt bekendt gemaeckt geandtwoort van neen, en g’arresteert bij voors. materie te sullen blijven.
sNmiddens21 sijn mede in vergaderingh verscheenen alle de schippers van de hier ter rheede leggende tweede retourschepen overgevende nevens onsen equipagiemeester (en baes timmerman na dat door den gouverneur hun daartoe alvoorens aangesocht was) seecker verclaringen wegens hunne visitatien door opgemelte sijn E.E.ordre aan ‘t jacht Pouleron gedaan, ende gemerckt den schipper van ‘t jacht Poeleron insisteert, vermits een weijnigh overladen is, en uijt vrese van eenige leckagie op de verdere reijse, dat mocht van sijn overladen cargasoen alhier werden een weijnigh ontlast, onaangesien dat bij de verclaringen van de andere schippers in compe. varende, consteert dat gedurende de reijse van Batavia tot herwaerts toe efter wel en bequaem zeijl heeft cunnen voeren en oocq gevoert en denselven bij occasie wel sien hebben pompen, maer van geseijde schipper op 7en Maart (na gedaene prijinge) te hebben verstaan dat het noch heel wel conde gaande houden, gelijck bij de verclaringen door den equipagiemeester en baes timmerman voornoemt daarvan gepasseert, mede blijckt dat op de naeuwkeurige visitatie daer aen gedaen, geene de minste leckagie hebben cunnen ontwaren, maer wel dat ijets boven haar behoorlijcke ladingh was inhebbende. Ende invoegen bij ons sulcx sijnde grotelijcx overwoogen en in consideratie genomen en dit bovenstaende relaes van ijder sijn gevoelen blijckende breeder bij de meergem. getuijghschriften daervan overgeleghtVgl. die attestasie van die skeepsoffisiere van dieals nu genoegsaem gehoort dat weijnigh of geen pericul daaraan vast is, als sijnde nu oock de periculeuste zee en ‘t holle water gepasseert, Soo is ‘t dat den Gouverneur en Raat mede om de groote volumineusheijt daeraan vast sijnde, met goet overlegh hebben gearresteert ‘t cargasoen dat doch sober genoech is en wenschelijck ware grooter was, geheel in gemelden bodem soo als ‘t selve van Batavia daarin is gescheept te laten verblijven, vermits de nootsackelijckheijt daertoe noch soo hardt niet is dringende, ende geconsidereert de particuliere goederen a daarbij noot werdende uijtgesmeten, dien bodem niets te veel overladen te sullen sijn. Soo is wijders noch goet gevonden (na dat alvoorens eenige goederen sijn wegh gestuwt en soodanigh opgeruijmt dat bij hooghdringende noodt te gelijck kunnen balijen en pompen) de opperhoofden van dien bodem serieuslijck te gelasten omme bij storm of onweder, eenigh gevaer onderworpen raekende, alle particuliere goederen, kisten a overboordt te smijten en deselve tot seguriteijt van ‘t cargasoen onser Heeren Maijoores aan Neptunus op te offeren en ‘t geene meer tot voorstandt van welgem. onse Heeren Meesters nootsakelijck sal dienen gedaan als verhoopende dan deselve, door Godes alwijse en machtigh bestier, wel te sullen de havenen van onse lieve vaderlant sonder rampen bestevenen.
Aldus geresolveert en gearresteert in ‘t Fordt de Goede Hoop ten dage en jare voors.
[Signed:] J. BAX g.v. HERENTAL[S]
[Signed:] CRUDOP.
[Signed:] J. CRUSE.
[Signed:] Ms. VAN BANCHEM, Secrets.
Den Raat door den Heere Gouverneur deser residentie bij een geroepen sijnde, ten principalen omme af te wachten (na dat alvoorens door de boode meest ijder een van onse raadspleginge verstendigt is geweest) off oocq eenige persoonen vermits de tegenwoordigheijt van de laaste retourschepen alhier iets hadden te versoecken, des sijn in Raade verscheenen een goeden nomber persoonen dewelcke seer instantelijck versochten, vermits volcome tijtsexpiratie, om te moogen met voors. retourbodems repatrieeren als mede wederom eenige om de novo met meriterende opslach van gagie te werden in den dienst der E.Compe. aangenoomen, Soo sijn door den Gouverneur en Raat de sodanige op welckers reecq. te goet en hare tijt volcomen g’expireert bevonden is, op haare iterativen solicitatien daartoe gelicentieert ende wederom andere bequame dienaeren op haar versoeck met de daartoe staande belooningh onder ‘t ordinaire verbandt begunstight, ende gemerct in Rade haar mede hebben verthoont eenige impotente uijt het hospitael, blijvende van de passeerende en repasseerende bodems alhier overleggen tot groote laste en intreste van onse Heere Meesters, wel voornamentlijck van de soodanige die door luijigheijt door ‘t goet genoth van de ververssinge aldaer, haar maar soecken op te houwden waaronder oocq eenige die merckelijcke gebreecken in den dienst der E. Compe. en oock daar buijten hebben gecregen en waar door gansch door ‘t ontbeeren haerer vereijssende leden en gesontheijt onbequaem geworden sijn, En vervolgens instantigh versocht om te moogen in ‘t Patria gaan sien off tot haar voorige gesontheijt cunnen geraecken, Soo is bij den Gouverneur en Raadt sulcx ingesien ende geconsidereert de soodanige impotenten, in India doorgaens tot soulaes van ‘s Comps. sware oncosten haare maendelijcksen gagie daermede in schieten en op reeck. werden gedebiteert, gelijck alhier mede in dier voegen niet onredelijck dan werden geoordeelt, daarvoor ten minsten eenige recognitie wierde betoont, altijt om den luijen aart onder sommige schuijlende, soo veel mogelijck te verminderen, Soo is na goede overlegh een parigh daarop geresolveert, en goet gevonden de gebreckelige hier tot laste en onbequaem tot eenigen dienst, ongeacht derselver tijt niet is geexpireert, op haar versoecq na ‘t vaderlant te licentieeren buijten eenige belastinge, namentlijck soo haare ongesontheijt en gebreecklijckheijt in den dienst der E. Compe. hier ter plaatse hebben gecregen, maar de soodanige die jaer en dach in voorseijde hospitael van de passerende en repasserende bodems20 blijven tot groote intereste der E.Compe. overleggen, na ‘t montant van haare winnende gagie maendelijcx voor de helfte op haare reecq., alsoo de meesters van ‘t hospitael somwijl vernemen het met eenige niet al te rechten ernst is, en oversulcx wel eenige belastinge meriteeren.
Saturdagh den 7en do. daaraanvolgende.
Den Raat wederom vergadert en bij een gecomen sijnde omme te resumeeren de vaderlantse papieren en missiven ten antwoorde van haer Edle. d.Heeren Bewinthebberen Hoogh geeert schrijven gedirigeert om off al het geene in deselve wel circumstantelijck mocht wesen genoteert en vervath dat aan haer Edle. voornt. nootsaeckelijck diende geadviseert. Des sijn deselve in Rade met aandacht gelesen en na gedane lecture is door den Gouverneur ront gevraegt off ijmandt oordeelde ten dienste van onse Heeren Maijores daar noch diende bij off aff gedaan te moeten werden, Soo is (na dat ijder ‘t sijne hadt bekendt gemaeckt geandtwoort van neen, en g’arresteert bij voors. materie te sullen blijven.
sNmiddens21 sijn mede in vergaderingh verscheenen alle de schippers van de hier ter rheede leggende tweede retourschepen overgevende nevens onsen equipagiemeester (en baes timmerman na dat door den gouverneur hun daartoe alvoorens aangesocht was) seecker verclaringen wegens hunne visitatien door opgemelte sijn E.E.ordre aan ‘t jacht Pouleron gedaan, ende gemerckt den schipper van ‘t jacht Poeleron insisteert, vermits een weijnigh overladen is, en uijt vrese van eenige leckagie op de verdere reijse, dat mocht van sijn overladen cargasoen alhier werden een weijnigh ontlast, onaangesien dat bij de verclaringen van de andere schippers in compe. varende, consteert dat gedurende de reijse van Batavia tot herwaerts toe efter wel en bequaem zeijl heeft cunnen voeren en oocq gevoert en denselven bij occasie wel sien hebben pompen, maer van geseijde schipper op 7en Maart (na gedaene prijinge) te hebben verstaan dat het noch heel wel conde gaande houden, gelijck bij de verclaringen door den equipagiemeester en baes timmerman voornoemt daarvan gepasseert, mede blijckt dat op de naeuwkeurige visitatie daer aen gedaen, geene de minste leckagie hebben cunnen ontwaren, maer wel dat ijets boven haar behoorlijcke ladingh was inhebbende. Ende invoegen bij ons sulcx sijnde grotelijcx overwoogen en in consideratie genomen en dit bovenstaende relaes van ijder sijn gevoelen blijckende breeder bij de meergem. getuijghschriften daervan overgeleghtVgl. die attestasie van die skeepsoffisiere van dieals nu genoegsaem gehoort dat weijnigh of geen pericul daaraan vast is, als sijnde nu oock de periculeuste zee en ‘t holle water gepasseert, Soo is ‘t dat den Gouverneur en Raat mede om de groote volumineusheijt daeraan vast sijnde, met goet overlegh hebben gearresteert ‘t cargasoen dat doch sober genoech is en wenschelijck ware grooter was, geheel in gemelden bodem soo als ‘t selve van Batavia daarin is gescheept te laten verblijven, vermits de nootsackelijckheijt daertoe noch soo hardt niet is dringende, ende geconsidereert de particuliere goederen a daarbij noot werdende uijtgesmeten, dien bodem niets te veel overladen te sullen sijn. Soo is wijders noch goet gevonden (na dat alvoorens eenige goederen sijn wegh gestuwt en soodanigh opgeruijmt dat bij hooghdringende noodt te gelijck kunnen balijen en pompen) de opperhoofden van dien bodem serieuslijck te gelasten omme bij storm of onweder, eenigh gevaer onderworpen raekende, alle particuliere goederen, kisten a overboordt te smijten en deselve tot seguriteijt van ‘t cargasoen onser Heeren Maijoores aan Neptunus op te offeren en ‘t geene meer tot voorstandt van welgem. onse Heeren Meesters nootsakelijck sal dienen gedaan als verhoopende dan deselve, door Godes alwijse en machtigh bestier, wel te sullen de havenen van onse lieve vaderlant sonder rampen bestevenen.
Aldus geresolveert en gearresteert in ‘t Fordt de Goede Hoop ten dage en jare voors.
[Signed:] J. BAX g.v. HERENTAL[S]
[Signed:] CRUDOP.
[Signed:] J. CRUSE.
[Signed:] Ms. VAN BANCHEM, Secrets.