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1678-04-18

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Entry number
575
Date
1678-04-18
Year
1678

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Presentibus omnibus assumto Mr. Tobias Vlasvath, Jan Wittebol, skipper on the Rommerswaele; Cornelis Cornelisz, deputy on the Quartel; Emanuel van Ceulen, deputy on the Vlieger; Johannes Ravensbergh, Jacob Croon.

While the resolution of the 14th of this month did not specify that the detention of Danish Captain Antoni van Doorne was right and proper, it is nevertheless the case that the Governor and Council of this residence, strengthened by some assumed members and the respective skippers of the ships moored here, have carefully read and precisely summarized the sharp edicts of its High Command. the Lords States General of the free and united Netherlands, Also insert the strict orders of our Lords Majors in the Country, as further noted by their Highnesses. Latest General Letter dated 18 October 1677, written in person to the Governor and Council, in which, among other things, the following words clearly express the matter: "We ourselves understand that you, all Dutchmen arriving there with foreign ships, will have to detain them, whether with or against their will, according to edicts of Your Highness."2 Furthermore, it is considered that we do not consider ourselves qualified or authorized to dispense with such strict orders from our Lord Majors, but, on the contrary, to obey them according to their contents without deviating from them. A similar incident also summarized here in 1672 occurred with the detention and subsequent release of a Danish skipper, Carsten de Regter, with the circumstances deduced in detail. as well as the answer received thereon from the Noble Majors from the fatherland; also reflection having been taken on the insolence committed by those of the Danish ship the Hoop in the year 1675 in the Saldania Bay, and on the other side having taken into deliberation the close alliance between His Royal Majesty of Denmark and our state, and also inspecting letters after Cormandel from our Lords Majors on that subject, to whose prompt order much seems to matter; as well as what wartimes we are still experiencing, and also considering that the aforementioned Danish captain had a certain petition delivered to Rade today in which he very much objected and protested about the retention of his person as His Majesty's captain, expressly stating that His Majesty's ship would not be able to depart from here without him, the captain, as the ship and its loading would be entirely his responsibility, and consequently, it would be necessary to remain here with the ship until such a response from Europe was received, to the considerable detriment and interest of His Royal Majesty; having also previously read two separate petitions to the ship's council of the aforementioned Danish ship, drawn up and delivered to us, also containing the principal content that in the event we were unable to augment its captain, she would be obliged to remain here to the great detriment of His Royal Majesty, as she did not consider herself qualified to go to sea from here, apart from her aforementioned captain, saying verbally that she feared that this would result in some misfortune to the peril of the ship and its property, as very dangerous and rebellious people were present on its soil, and that even if they themselves were to take refuge here, it was feared that the ship would be in danger of being overrun; such that in Council this important matter was considered with mature deliberation and various debates on this matter were brought forward, and everything being carefully considered,3 So it was finally resolved after many arguments by unanimous vote in respect of His Royal Majesty of Denmark, since it is known that the said Majesty calls him his Royal Captain, and the ship, in addition to the cargo, it was recommended entirely to his responsibility that the aforementioned Captain Antoni van Doorne should be augmented and set at liberty, with the understanding that he passes an act in forma that he will be at all times at the order or summons of the Noble. Gentlemen Majors in the Fatherland, or which High Government in India will deliver his person to any city or place he may be ordered, and binding upon his arrival his body, life, and goods, wherever they may be, provided that all such Dutchmen on the Phenix who have served the E. Company in India before this date are delivered into our hands, whether with or against their will, and it is finally also established that, in the event that the said captain should for that reason come to us to borrow a bullman to help bring that ship by sea, such will be granted to him upon his earnest request, provided that she herself will We will be held responsible for paying all expenses; finally, we are relieved of all damage and misfortunes that may arise as a result of this, protesting against the aforementioned Danish Captain Antoni van Doorne and the other authorities on the Danish ship the Phenix, stating that they, and not we, are responsible for the aforementioned royal ship the Phenix and its goods, as they call it, sailing poorly, in that failure to comply or to ensure compliance, which is why Antoni van Doorne has been arrested. It has been decided that this should be read to him and a copy, as far as the following is relevant, should be handed to him.

Thus resolved and arrested at the Fort of Good Hope, date above.

[Signed:] J. BAX g. v. HERENTALS.

[Signed:] CRUDOP.

[Signed:] ...........................

[Signed:] TOBIAS VLASVATH.

[Signed:] JAN WITTEBOL.

[Signed:] J. CRUSE.

[Signed:] Ms. VAN BANCHEM.

[Signed:] CORNELIS CORNELISZ.

[Signed:] EMANUEL VAN CEULEN.

[Signed:] J. RAVENSBERGH

[Signed:] J. KROON.

[Signed:] I hereby present, admittedly, A. DE MAN, Clerk.

Original Dutch transcription

Presentibus omnibus assumto Mr. Tobias Vlasvath, Jan Wittebol, schipper op Rommerswaele ; Cornelis Cornelisz, do. op de Quartel ; Emanuel van Ceulen, do. op de Vlieger ; Johannes Ravensbergh, Jacob Croon.

Niet jegenstaande bij resolutie van 14 deser maandt was verstaan dat het aanhouden van den Deenschen capitain Antoni van Doorne wel en te regten sij gedaan, Soo is ‘t nogtans dat den Gouverneur en Raadt deser residentie, versterckt met eenige g’assumeerde leden en de respective schippers van de hier ter rhede leggende schepen, met aandacht hebben gelesen en exactelijck nochmael geresumeert de scherpe placcaten van haar Ho.Mo. de Heeren Staten Generaal der vrije vereenigde Nederlanden, Soo mede de stricte ordres van onse Heeren Majoores in ‘t Patria invoegen noch nader daar consteert bij haar Hoogh Edle. jongste Generale missive sub dato 18 October 1677 aan den Gouverneur en Raadt in loco geschreven waar bij deselve onder andere materie wel duijdelijck komen uijt te drucken dese volgende woorden: “selffs verstaan wij dat U.E. alle Nederlanders met vreemde schepen daar aancomende, ‘t sij met off tegens haar wil, volgens Hoogh Mog. placcaten sullen hebben aan te houden;”2 oock daar nevens geconsidereert dat wij ons in geenen deelen gequalificeert off bevoegt vinden van soodanige stricte beveelen onser Heeren Majores te dispenseeren, maar ter contrarie deselve na den inhoudt sonder daar van af te wijken te gehoorsamen, oock geresumeert een diergelijck subject in de jaare 1672 alhier voorgevallen met het aanhouden en weder largeeren van een Deenschen schipper Carsten de Regter, met de omstandigheden daar bij wijtloopigh gededuceert, mitsgaders ‘t antwoort daar over van de EdIe.Heeren Majoores uijt ‘t vaderlandt bekomen; oock reflexie genoomen sijnde op de insolentien door die van het Deensche schip de Hoop in den jaare 1675 in de Saldaniabaeij gepleegt en aan de andere sijde in deliberatie genoomen de naeuwe aliantie tusschen sijn Coninglijcke Majesteijt van Deenmarken en onsen staet en oock insiende brieven na Cormandel van onse Heeren Majoores met dien bodem sijn overgekomen aan welckers spoedige bestellingh veel schijnt gelegen te sijn; mitsgaders wat oorlogstijden wij als noch beleven, en oock geconsidereert dat den gemelten Deenschen capteijn heden in Rade heeft laten overleveren seeker versoeckschrift waarbij den selven over het aanhouden van sijn persoon als sijn Majesteijts capteijn seer komt te doleren en protesteeren daar bij wel uijtdruckelijck te kennen gevende dat sijn Majesteijts schip niet sonder hem capteijn van hier sal konnen vertrecken, als het schip en de inladingh t’ eenemael t’ sijnder verantwoordinge staande, en gevolglijck genootsaeckt soude wesen tot merckelijcke schade en intrest van sijn Coninglijcke Majesteijt met ‘t schip alhier te verblijven tot dat antwoort uijt Europa bequamen; sijnde oock vorders gelesen twee distincte versoeckschriften bij den scheepsraadt van ‘t gemelte Deensche schip opgestelt en ons overgelevert, mede ten principale vervattende ingevalle wij haaren capteijn niet en komen te largeeren, sij genootsaeckt soude wesen tot groote schade van sijn Coninglijcke Majesteijt alhier te verblijven, als haar niet gequalificeert vindende buijten haar gemelten capteijn van hier in zee te gaan, seggende mondelingh beducht te sijn daar uijt eenige onheijlen tot pericul van schip en goet te sullen resulteeren, alsoo op haren bodem seer dangereus en rebelligh volcq is bescheijden, en selff hier ter rhede leggende al gevreest wierd dien bodem gevaar van overmant te werden liep; zulcx dat in Rade dese gewichtige saacke met rijpe deliberatie overwoogen en verscheijde debatten dese saeck makende bijgebragt, en alles met aandacht overwoogen sijnde,3 Soo is eijndelijck naar veele argumenten met eenparigheijt van stemmen geresolveert ten respecte van sijn Coninglijcke Majesteijt van Deenmarken , dewijle bekent staet de gemelte Majesteijt hem sijn Coninglijck capteijn noemt, en ‘t schip nevens de inladinge t’ eenemael t’ sijner verantwoordinge is aanbevoolen, dat de meergemelte capteijn Antoni van Doorne sal werden gelargeert en op vrijje4 voeten gestelt, met dien verstande nogtans dat hij een acte in forma passeert dat hij tot allen tijden op ordre off ontbiedingh van de Edle. Heeren Majores in ‘t Patria off welcke Hooge Regeringh in India sijn persoon sal leveren ter stede off plaatse die hem sal werden g’ordonneert, en tot naarcominge van dien sijn lijff, leven en goederen waar die souwde moogen wesen verbindende, mits alvoorens in onse handen overleverende alle soodanige Nederlanders op de Phenix bescheijden die d’ E. Compa. voor desen in India hebben gedient, ‘t sij met off tegens haar will, en eijndelijck is mede vastgestelt, ingevalle gemelte capteijn uijt die oorsaeck aan ons mocht komen te versoecken om een stierman in leeningh te genieten, om dien bodem te helpen door zee brengen, dat sulcx hem op sijn ernstigh versoeck sal werden geconsenteert, mits dat sij denselven tot haaren koste gehouden sullen wesen te gagieeren; eijndelijck ons ontlast houwdende van alle schade en onheijlen die ter oorsaeke deses moghten komen t’ ontstaan, contraprotesteerende met desen tegen den voors. Deensche capteijn Antoni van Doorne en d’ verdere Overigheijt op ‘t Deensche schip de Phenix bescheijden, seggende dat sij en niet wij oorsaeck sijn van het voorn. Coninglijcke schip de Phenix en goederen, gelijck sij ‘t noemen, qualijck varen, in dien niet nakomen off doen nakomen, ‘t geene tot relaxatie van hem Antoni Van Doorne is g’arresteert, tot besluijt is goet gevonden hem dit voor te lesen en copie, soo veel dit onderstaande belangt, hem ter handt te stellen.

Aldus geresolveert ende g’arresteert in ‘t Fort de Goede Hoop datum ut supra.

[Signed:] J. BAX g. v. HERENTALS.

[Signed:] CRUDOP.

[Signed:] ...........................

[Signed:] TOBIAS VLASVATH.

[Signed:] JAN WITTEBOL.

[Signed:] J. CRUSE.

[Signed:] Ms. VAN BANCHEM.

[Signed:] CORNELIS CORNELISZ.

[Signed:] EMANUEL VAN CEULEN.

[Signed:] J. RAVENSBERGH

[Signed:] J.KROON.

[Signed:] Mij present hiertoe geadmitteert A. DE MAN, Clerq.