Cape Council of Policy
444
1671-03-10
Minute details
- Entry number
- 444
- Date
- 1671-03-10
- Year
- 1671
English translation
As, in accordance with the resolution of the 16th of last month, a start had now been made with laying a number of military ships from the existing Patrician ships moored here, His E.H. Mr. Commander of the Council of this Fortress, in which chief merchant Robbert Padbrugge assumes, with good reason, demonstrated that it would not be necessary to also consider an experienced and capable senior military officer, who was expected to be deployed in all wartime incidents, since here experienced and capable officers are soberly provided, while experience has shown that such people are of great importance in such incidents, and considers that a certain lieutenant named Monsr. Bredenbach arrived here on the ship Gecroonde Vrede,36 which not only the E. Compe. has served in India for quite some time in similar and higher capacities, as well as in various battalions and sieges, but also, according to the testimonies given, has always shown courage in these.
Consequently, His Eminence the Council seriously considers whether it would not be good to retain the aforementioned Lieutenant Bredenbach here and to grant him employment, especially since, as stated, he is considered an expert and experienced soldier, of which the E. Compe. Apparently, good services could be expected here in the event of any attack, and after this proposition had been thoroughly considered in the Council, the members of that General advised that such a person here was absolutely required, and was consequently arrested, to land the aforementioned Lieutenant Bredenbach here and provisionally give him his military employment. However, Lieutenant Sr. Coon, without his consent to the landing, nevertheless remained of the opinion that he would compete for the precedence.
Whereupon, the last act of the aforementioned Sr. Coon was examined by the Council, and it emerged that he held the qualifications of provisional lieutenant, for which the E. Compe. to continue for another year, and noting that it is beyond the maxims of India to decline anyone's rank, and thus to prefer the inferior to the superior, besides that it would also be far from practical to appoint two equal heads here, and the aforementioned Monsignor Bredenbach, already having the rank of absolute lieutenant, was consequently delegated the precedence to him.
Wherefore, the aforementioned Lieutenant Sr. Coon, endorsing this, said that in such a situation he would not have desired to continue here, much less to tolerate someone else being placed above him, but instead requested permission to depart for Batavia. This request, having been deliberated upon by the Council, was granted with general advice.
Ed.
Being also informed in Council by citizen Coenraad Urbanus that, although with Mr. Commissioner Goske decided to withdraw from his proposed departure with his wife after his father's father had been refused, on the grounds that the connection between his wife and his wife had not expired and that apparently her mental illness could have been healed by God's grace, both here and in Patria, in contravention of the disease of the former. woman at several surgeons, according to sworn certificates issued by them here in the place not only was something incurable found, but also increased more and more daily, and therefore after all it became apparent that recovery was not always to be hoped for here, that he felt compelled out of the utmost necessity to address the Council once again, and to immediately request that they, considering his poverty and pitiful condition of his wife, would kindly allow him to leave here from here. And not withstanding His E. the Commander initially withdrew himself, Mr. Commissioner Goske disadvised the approval. Nevertheless, she asked the Councillor what her opinion on the matter might be, and as she unanimously declared that it was a matter of conscience, and therefore generally advised that his request could be well-reasoned. His E., having been overruled, consented to this, and in accordance with the Councillor's advice, permitted the Deputy Coenraad Urbanus, along with his family, to return to the Fatherland on this return fleet, provided that payment was made here in the Comps. the cost and transport fees stipulated therein.38
Thus done and resolved in the Fortress of Good Hope on the day and year prescribed.
[Signed:] PR HACKIUS. 1671.
[Signed:] R. PADT-BRUGGE.
[Signed:] CORN. DE CRETSER.
[Signed:] J. COON.
[Signed:] J. GRANAAT.
[Signed:] Present to me: H. CRUDOP. Secrts.
Consequently, His Eminence the Council seriously considers whether it would not be good to retain the aforementioned Lieutenant Bredenbach here and to grant him employment, especially since, as stated, he is considered an expert and experienced soldier, of which the E. Compe. Apparently, good services could be expected here in the event of any attack, and after this proposition had been thoroughly considered in the Council, the members of that General advised that such a person here was absolutely required, and was consequently arrested, to land the aforementioned Lieutenant Bredenbach here and provisionally give him his military employment. However, Lieutenant Sr. Coon, without his consent to the landing, nevertheless remained of the opinion that he would compete for the precedence.
Whereupon, the last act of the aforementioned Sr. Coon was examined by the Council, and it emerged that he held the qualifications of provisional lieutenant, for which the E. Compe. to continue for another year, and noting that it is beyond the maxims of India to decline anyone's rank, and thus to prefer the inferior to the superior, besides that it would also be far from practical to appoint two equal heads here, and the aforementioned Monsignor Bredenbach, already having the rank of absolute lieutenant, was consequently delegated the precedence to him.
Wherefore, the aforementioned Lieutenant Sr. Coon, endorsing this, said that in such a situation he would not have desired to continue here, much less to tolerate someone else being placed above him, but instead requested permission to depart for Batavia. This request, having been deliberated upon by the Council, was granted with general advice.
Ed.
Being also informed in Council by citizen Coenraad Urbanus that, although with Mr. Commissioner Goske decided to withdraw from his proposed departure with his wife after his father's father had been refused, on the grounds that the connection between his wife and his wife had not expired and that apparently her mental illness could have been healed by God's grace, both here and in Patria, in contravention of the disease of the former. woman at several surgeons, according to sworn certificates issued by them here in the place not only was something incurable found, but also increased more and more daily, and therefore after all it became apparent that recovery was not always to be hoped for here, that he felt compelled out of the utmost necessity to address the Council once again, and to immediately request that they, considering his poverty and pitiful condition of his wife, would kindly allow him to leave here from here. And not withstanding His E. the Commander initially withdrew himself, Mr. Commissioner Goske disadvised the approval. Nevertheless, she asked the Councillor what her opinion on the matter might be, and as she unanimously declared that it was a matter of conscience, and therefore generally advised that his request could be well-reasoned. His E., having been overruled, consented to this, and in accordance with the Councillor's advice, permitted the Deputy Coenraad Urbanus, along with his family, to return to the Fatherland on this return fleet, provided that payment was made here in the Comps. the cost and transport fees stipulated therein.38
Thus done and resolved in the Fortress of Good Hope on the day and year prescribed.
[Signed:] PR HACKIUS. 1671.
[Signed:] R. PADT-BRUGGE.
[Signed:] CORN. DE CRETSER.
[Signed:] J. COON.
[Signed:] J. GRANAAT.
[Signed:] Present to me: H. CRUDOP. Secrts.
Original Dutch transcription
Alsoo men agtervolgens resolutie van den 16en der voorleden maent alsnu een begin hadde gemaeckt met het ligten van een getal militaire uijt de present hier ter rhede leggende Patriasche schepen, Soo wert door Zijn E. den Hr. Commandeur den Raat deser Fortresse, daerin g’assumeert den oppercoopman Robbert Padbrugge, met goede redenen gedemonstreert, off het niet noodigh soude wesen, dat men oock zijne gedagten liet gaen omtrent een ervaren en bequaem hooger crijgs-officier, die g’oirdeelt wierde in alle voorvallen van oorlogh g’emplojeert te cunnen werden, vermits alhier van ervaerne en bequaeme officieren sober versien sijn, daer evenwel door d’ experientie ondervonden wert, dat aen diergelijcke luijden in sodaenige voorvallen merckelick gelegen leijt, ende geconsidereert dat per ‘t schip de Gecroonde Vrede alhier is comen aan te landen seker lieutenant genaemt Monsr. Bredenbach,36 d’ welcke niet alleenigh d’ E. Compe. in India al een geruijmen tijt van jaren in diergelijke en hooger qualiteijten heeft gediend, mitsgaeders verscheijde batalien ende belegeringen bijgewoont, maer sigh ook in deselve, volgens de getuijgenissen die daervan werden gegeven, alletijt manhaft getoont.
Ingevolge geeft Zijn E. den Raad in serieus bedencken, off men niet voor goet soude aensien opgemelden lieutenant Bredenbach alhier aan te houden ende sijn emploij te geven, te meer, om dat deselve, als gesegt, voor een expert en ervaren crijgsman g’oirdeelt wert, waervan d’ E. Compe. alhier bij eenige attacque apparentelijck goede diensten soude te verwagten hebben, ende nae dat dese propositie in Raede rijpelijck overwogen was, hebben de leden van dien generaelijck g’adviseert, dat sodaenigen persoon alhier nootsaekelijk vereijste, ende is consequentelijck g’arresteert, opgemelden lieutenant Bredenbach alhier aan lant te ligten en bij provisie sijn militair emploij te geven, doch blijft den lieutenant Sr. Coon, buijten sijn toestemminge van ‘t lichten, evenwel van opinie, dat hem de preceance soude competeren.
Waerop bij den Raad de laaste acte van opgemelden Sr. Coon g’examineert zijnde, is daeruijt gebleken, dat deselve de qualiteijt van provisionele lieutenant becledende, daervoor sodaenigh gehouden is d’ E. Compe. nogh een jaer te continueren ende gemerckt het buijten de maximen van India zij, ijemant in zijn qualiteijt te declineren, ende zulx den minderen den hogeren te prefereren, bezijden dat oock geensints practicabel soude wesen, twe eguale hoofden alhier te plaatsen, ende gemelden Monsr. Bredenbach, albereets de qualiteijt van absoluut lieutenant is hebbende, so wert gevolghlijck aan denselven de preceance gedefereert.
Mitswelcken voors. lieutenant Sr. Coon, sustinerende hier door gegraveert te zijn, zeijde, dat in sodanigen voorval niet en soude nogh begeerde alhier t’ continueren, veel min te gedoogen, dat een ander boven hem soude gestelt werden, maer ter contrarie versogte om nae Batavia te mogen vertrecken, welck versoeck bij den Raat in deliberatie genomen zijnde, is hem sulx met gemeijn advijs ingewilligt.
Eodem die.
Door den borger Coenraad Urbanus mede in Raade te kennen gegeven sijnde, dat, alhoewel bij d’ Hr. Commissaris Goske zijn versogte vertreck met sijn huijsvrouw nae ‘t vaederlant t’ eenemael was gerefuseert, op die consideratien dat het verband van desselffs huijsvrouw niet g’expireert en was, ende apparent haere kranckheijt door Godes genaede so wel hier als in ‘t Patria soude cunnen genesen werden, daer ter contrarie de sieckte van voors. vrouw bij verscheijde chijrurgijns, volgens derselver verleende b’edigde attestatien hier ter plaatse niet alleenigh ongeneeslijck wierde g’oirdeelt, maer oock daegelijx meer ende meer toenam ende derhalven nae allen blijck geen reconvalescatie altoos hier te hopen was, dat deselve uijt d[e] hoogste nootsaekelickheijt sigh gedwongen vond noghmaels aen den Raad t’ addresseren, ende instantelijck te versoeken, dat deselve sijn armoede ende deerlijke37 gestalte zijner huijsvrouw insiende, uijt commiseratie mogten gelieven hem van hier te largeren. Ende niet jegenstaende Zijn E. den Commandeur ter eerster instantie sigh heeft ontrocken, des Hr. Commissaris Goske gedisadvoijeerde approbatie te contramineren, Soo geeft nogtans deselve den vorderen Raadt in omvraege, wat haer sentiment hiervan soude mogen wesen, ende also deselve daerop eenpaerigh verclaerden, het een saeke de conscientie raekende te zijn, ende dierhalven generaelijck adviseerden, dat met goede redenen zijn versoeck soude cunnen werden g’advoijeert, so heeft Sijn E. als overstemt sijnde desen geconsenteert, ende in conformite der advijsen van den Raadt den suppt. Coenraad Urbanus toegestaen, omme nevens zijn familie mit dese retourvloot nae ‘t Patria te mogen keren, mits betaelende alhier in ‘s Comps. cassa het cost ende transportgelt daertoe staande.38
Aldus gedaan ende geresolveert in de Fortresse de Goede Hoope ten dage en jare voorschreven.
[Signed:] PR HACKIUS. 1671.
[Signed:] R. PADT-BRUGGE.
[Signed:] CORN. DE CRETSER.
[Signed:] J. COON.
[Signed:] J. GRANAAT.
[Signed:] Mij praesent. H. CRUDOP. Secrts.
Ingevolge geeft Zijn E. den Raad in serieus bedencken, off men niet voor goet soude aensien opgemelden lieutenant Bredenbach alhier aan te houden ende sijn emploij te geven, te meer, om dat deselve, als gesegt, voor een expert en ervaren crijgsman g’oirdeelt wert, waervan d’ E. Compe. alhier bij eenige attacque apparentelijck goede diensten soude te verwagten hebben, ende nae dat dese propositie in Raede rijpelijck overwogen was, hebben de leden van dien generaelijck g’adviseert, dat sodaenigen persoon alhier nootsaekelijk vereijste, ende is consequentelijck g’arresteert, opgemelden lieutenant Bredenbach alhier aan lant te ligten en bij provisie sijn militair emploij te geven, doch blijft den lieutenant Sr. Coon, buijten sijn toestemminge van ‘t lichten, evenwel van opinie, dat hem de preceance soude competeren.
Waerop bij den Raad de laaste acte van opgemelden Sr. Coon g’examineert zijnde, is daeruijt gebleken, dat deselve de qualiteijt van provisionele lieutenant becledende, daervoor sodaenigh gehouden is d’ E. Compe. nogh een jaer te continueren ende gemerckt het buijten de maximen van India zij, ijemant in zijn qualiteijt te declineren, ende zulx den minderen den hogeren te prefereren, bezijden dat oock geensints practicabel soude wesen, twe eguale hoofden alhier te plaatsen, ende gemelden Monsr. Bredenbach, albereets de qualiteijt van absoluut lieutenant is hebbende, so wert gevolghlijck aan denselven de preceance gedefereert.
Mitswelcken voors. lieutenant Sr. Coon, sustinerende hier door gegraveert te zijn, zeijde, dat in sodanigen voorval niet en soude nogh begeerde alhier t’ continueren, veel min te gedoogen, dat een ander boven hem soude gestelt werden, maer ter contrarie versogte om nae Batavia te mogen vertrecken, welck versoeck bij den Raat in deliberatie genomen zijnde, is hem sulx met gemeijn advijs ingewilligt.
Eodem die.
Door den borger Coenraad Urbanus mede in Raade te kennen gegeven sijnde, dat, alhoewel bij d’ Hr. Commissaris Goske zijn versogte vertreck met sijn huijsvrouw nae ‘t vaederlant t’ eenemael was gerefuseert, op die consideratien dat het verband van desselffs huijsvrouw niet g’expireert en was, ende apparent haere kranckheijt door Godes genaede so wel hier als in ‘t Patria soude cunnen genesen werden, daer ter contrarie de sieckte van voors. vrouw bij verscheijde chijrurgijns, volgens derselver verleende b’edigde attestatien hier ter plaatse niet alleenigh ongeneeslijck wierde g’oirdeelt, maer oock daegelijx meer ende meer toenam ende derhalven nae allen blijck geen reconvalescatie altoos hier te hopen was, dat deselve uijt d[e] hoogste nootsaekelickheijt sigh gedwongen vond noghmaels aen den Raad t’ addresseren, ende instantelijck te versoeken, dat deselve sijn armoede ende deerlijke37 gestalte zijner huijsvrouw insiende, uijt commiseratie mogten gelieven hem van hier te largeren. Ende niet jegenstaende Zijn E. den Commandeur ter eerster instantie sigh heeft ontrocken, des Hr. Commissaris Goske gedisadvoijeerde approbatie te contramineren, Soo geeft nogtans deselve den vorderen Raadt in omvraege, wat haer sentiment hiervan soude mogen wesen, ende also deselve daerop eenpaerigh verclaerden, het een saeke de conscientie raekende te zijn, ende dierhalven generaelijck adviseerden, dat met goede redenen zijn versoeck soude cunnen werden g’advoijeert, so heeft Sijn E. als overstemt sijnde desen geconsenteert, ende in conformite der advijsen van den Raadt den suppt. Coenraad Urbanus toegestaen, omme nevens zijn familie mit dese retourvloot nae ‘t Patria te mogen keren, mits betaelende alhier in ‘s Comps. cassa het cost ende transportgelt daertoe staande.38
Aldus gedaan ende geresolveert in de Fortresse de Goede Hoope ten dage en jare voorschreven.
[Signed:] PR HACKIUS. 1671.
[Signed:] R. PADT-BRUGGE.
[Signed:] CORN. DE CRETSER.
[Signed:] J. COON.
[Signed:] J. GRANAAT.
[Signed:] Mij praesent. H. CRUDOP. Secrts.