Cape Council of Policy
324
1664-02-06
Minute details
- Entry number
- 324
- Date
- 1664-02-06
- Year
- 1664
English translation
As they appeared yesterday afternoon from Madagascar on the French ship St. Charles in this fort, Captain Kerkadieu came this morning with several other officers to greet us here in the fort, and with a request that we would allow him to refresh himself and his men here for a few days, and to be provided with more drinking water, which he very gladly granted as a small courtesy. He then wrote a letter to the Duke of Mailleray, dated May 11, 1663, and delivered it to Commander Wagenaer in Nantes, in which the Duke and Marshal both requested that the aforementioned Commander. He wanted to send the 24 such pieces of cannon as had come from his wrecked ship La Mareschal and were recovered here, to the aforementioned Captain or his Lieutenant with due acknowledgement, as the aforementioned Captain had also requested this verbally several times and therefore insisted strongly on it.
But in view of the fact that last year our Lords and Masters in the fatherland, by their letter from September 1662, kindly ordered us to remove the remaining 14 pieces of ice (which Their Honor had not understood to be lying on the keel of the wreck, nor with any other ice object), and also to have them weighed, and to retain them until further order for them would arrive, according to which order we also removed the aforementioned 14 pieces with some round-headed iron, bolts, etc. last year with great difficulty, weighed them, and have them stored here on land. So it is that we, at this meeting, have unanimously understood and decided, after previous careful consideration of the matter, to reply to the municipal captain Kercadieu, on his iterative, that we cannot and do not have the power to deliver the aforementioned artillery and its associated equipment until we receive further and specific orders to that effect from the municipal council, our Lord Majors from the Netherlands. However, if, before the municipal council departs, a French ship from here could provide us with any further information on the matter (given that we are now beginning to see our ships coming from Holland daily), we will do everything we can to ensure that the municipal council... captain and principal d'Here Mareschal contentment has been given herein.
Thus done and resolved in 't Fort de Goede Hope on the day and last year.
[Signed:] Z. WAGENAER.
[Signed:] ABRAHAM GABBEMA. 1664.
[Signed:] HENDR. LACUS.
But in view of the fact that last year our Lords and Masters in the fatherland, by their letter from September 1662, kindly ordered us to remove the remaining 14 pieces of ice (which Their Honor had not understood to be lying on the keel of the wreck, nor with any other ice object), and also to have them weighed, and to retain them until further order for them would arrive, according to which order we also removed the aforementioned 14 pieces with some round-headed iron, bolts, etc. last year with great difficulty, weighed them, and have them stored here on land. So it is that we, at this meeting, have unanimously understood and decided, after previous careful consideration of the matter, to reply to the municipal captain Kercadieu, on his iterative, that we cannot and do not have the power to deliver the aforementioned artillery and its associated equipment until we receive further and specific orders to that effect from the municipal council, our Lord Majors from the Netherlands. However, if, before the municipal council departs, a French ship from here could provide us with any further information on the matter (given that we are now beginning to see our ships coming from Holland daily), we will do everything we can to ensure that the municipal council... captain and principal d'Here Mareschal contentment has been given herein.
Thus done and resolved in 't Fort de Goede Hope on the day and last year.
[Signed:] Z. WAGENAER.
[Signed:] ABRAHAM GABBEMA. 1664.
[Signed:] HENDR. LACUS.
Original Dutch transcription
Alsoo gisteren nademiddach van Madagascar per ‘t France schip St. Charles in dese bhaeij verscheenen zij, den Capitain Kerkadieu is ons deselve desen morgen verselschapt met eenige voirdere officieren hier in ‘t fort comen begroeten, ende met eenen versoecken dat wij hem wilden vergunnen sigh met sijn volck alhier voor eenige daegen te mogen refraischeren, ende van meer drinckwater versien, ‘t welck hem als een cleijne courtoisie seer geern toegestaen zijnde, heeft daerop een brieffke geschreven bij den Hertogh van Mailleray sub dato 11en Meij 1663 in Nantes aen den Commandeur Wagenaer overgegeven waerbij gemten. Hertogh en Mareschal eenelijck versoeckt dat voorn: Commandr. sodanige 24 ijsere stucken Canon als uijt sijn verongeluckt schip La Mareschal gecomen en hier geborgen waren, aen gemelten Capitain off desselffs Lieutenant onder behorelijcke recepisse wilde laten volgen, gelijck oock de voorsz Capitain diversche malen sulcx mondelingh versocht, en daerom sterck aengehouden heeft.
Maer ten aensien verleden jaer onse Heeren Meesters in het vaderlant bij haere missive van hen September 1662, ons hebben gelieven te beveelen, dat wij de resteerende 14 ijsere stucken (die Haer Ede. hadden verstaen noch met eenig ander ijserwerck op de kiel van het gemte. wrack lagen) souden sien daeruijt te crijgen, mitsgaders deselve laten wegen, en soo lange bij ons houden tot dat ons derselver nader ordre dienaengaende soude toegecomen zijn volgens welcke order wij oock de voorsz 14 stucken met eenigh rontscherp, bouts &a. verleden jaer met grote moeijte daeruijt gehaelt, deselve gewogen, ende hier aen lant geborgen hebben; Soo is ‘t dat wij als nu te deser vergaderingh eenparigh verstaen en besloten hebben, na voorgaende rijpe overwegingh van die saeck, de meergemte. capitain Kercadieu op sijn iterative aenhouden, sulcx in antwoorde te geven, dat wij niet cunnen noch vermogen ‘t voorn. geschut met het geen noch daerbij behoort van ons te geven, voor en aleer nader en speciaelder bevel deswegen van Welgemte. onse Heeren Majores uijt Nederlant sullen ontfangen hebben. Maer soo ons voor ‘t vertreck van ‘t gemte. France schip van hier eenigh nader bescheijt van die saeck soude mogen toecomen (ten aensien nu dagelijcks onse schepen uijt Hollant comende beginnen in t’ gemoet te sien) sullen wij allesints trachten dat de veelgemte. capitain en voornamenlijck d’ Heere Mareschal hierin contentement gegeven wert.
Aldus gedaen ende geresolveert in ‘t Fort de Goede Hope ten dage ende jare voorsz.
[Signed:] Z. WAGENAER.
[Signed:] ABRAHAM GABBEMA. 1664.
[Signed:] HENDR. LACUS.
Maer ten aensien verleden jaer onse Heeren Meesters in het vaderlant bij haere missive van hen September 1662, ons hebben gelieven te beveelen, dat wij de resteerende 14 ijsere stucken (die Haer Ede. hadden verstaen noch met eenig ander ijserwerck op de kiel van het gemte. wrack lagen) souden sien daeruijt te crijgen, mitsgaders deselve laten wegen, en soo lange bij ons houden tot dat ons derselver nader ordre dienaengaende soude toegecomen zijn volgens welcke order wij oock de voorsz 14 stucken met eenigh rontscherp, bouts &a. verleden jaer met grote moeijte daeruijt gehaelt, deselve gewogen, ende hier aen lant geborgen hebben; Soo is ‘t dat wij als nu te deser vergaderingh eenparigh verstaen en besloten hebben, na voorgaende rijpe overwegingh van die saeck, de meergemte. capitain Kercadieu op sijn iterative aenhouden, sulcx in antwoorde te geven, dat wij niet cunnen noch vermogen ‘t voorn. geschut met het geen noch daerbij behoort van ons te geven, voor en aleer nader en speciaelder bevel deswegen van Welgemte. onse Heeren Majores uijt Nederlant sullen ontfangen hebben. Maer soo ons voor ‘t vertreck van ‘t gemte. France schip van hier eenigh nader bescheijt van die saeck soude mogen toecomen (ten aensien nu dagelijcks onse schepen uijt Hollant comende beginnen in t’ gemoet te sien) sullen wij allesints trachten dat de veelgemte. capitain en voornamenlijck d’ Heere Mareschal hierin contentement gegeven wert.
Aldus gedaen ende geresolveert in ‘t Fort de Goede Hope ten dage ende jare voorsz.
[Signed:] Z. WAGENAER.
[Signed:] ABRAHAM GABBEMA. 1664.
[Signed:] HENDR. LACUS.