Cape Council of Policy
258
1661-03-02
Minute details
- Entry number
- 258
- Date
- 1661-03-02
- Year
- 1661
English translation
By the Honourable Commissioner Andries Frisius, the Broad Council of his E. fleet having been called ashore, but the sub-merchant Samuel de Lingne182 had his seat indicated to him in the council room according to the orders of their Honour to accept for Batavia as Lt. of the Broad Council this cession, because some questions against his skipper had been refused, as had been done on the way between Batavia and here and who had proceeded with the business without him, as well as by order of his E. the meeting presented what their Honour of Batavia had stated in their letter of the 13th of December. A letter was sent to Commander Riebeeck concerning the consent given regarding the passage to the Patria to the French clergy, who were misfortunate here with their ship, the Mareschal.
And furthermore, some stowaways were also found in the Batavia fleet. After careful deliberation, the following was unanimously decided:
Firstly, regarding the clergy, they will be distributed on the fleet, namely:
The bishop, Monsr. Estienne, and the priest, Monsr. Fadijn, at the table in the cabin, and outside the cabin his cherurgine, Frère Patte, with the aforementioned bishop's servant, named Fantasie, on the ship Malacca.
The priest, Monsr. Davroult at the table in the cabin with Mr. Vice Commander and his servant Cordolet, with Lieutenant de la Cloche, outside the cabin on the ship 't Hof van Zelant.
The priest, Monsr. de Fontain, at the cabin table next to his servant Binaire, outside the cabin on the ship De Nagelboom.
The young priest, Monsr. Bartomet, at the cabin table next to a French carpenter outside the cabin on the ship Amersfoort.
The second captain of the aforementioned French ship, Monsr. Carcadiou, at the cabin table next to Monsr. la Roche and the nephew of the appointed captain, outside the cabin on the ship Orangie.
That furthermore, all the stowaways from Batavia (up to 10 in number) should first be brought ashore to the fort, and then, upon arriving from the Fatherland, sent back again with the passing ships, to serve as an example to those who might think they are hiding from the Cape in the fleet heading for the fatherland.
That the two helmsmen of the ship Mars, due to her unbound, disembarked, and unmanned compartments, etc., will also be transferred, and in return, the return ship will be provided, namely:
In place of Gerrit Pietersz Meijfroo, helmsman, with the second skipper of the ship Malacca, named Jacob Claesz Le Bleuw, next to the reigning skipper, whom helmsman Gerrit Pietersz will transfer to the ship Malacca without command.185
And the helmsman Joost …186 of the ship Hoff van Zeelandt will again serve as chief helmsman on the Mars, against helmsman Speelman, who will also go to the Hoff van Zeelandt without command.
While this meeting was taking place, Com[m]andeur Riebeeck also showed that he had certain maps drawn up and marks of an outside channel just around the corner of this Taeffel Bay, which he had surveyed with the skipper of the galley, in order to be able to anchor in the strong south-easterly winds (this Taeffel Bay in this monsoon often blowing strongly) and thus to be less forced to sail away from this bay. And because this raft was equipped with many old and experienced skippers from the East Company, he had requested some committee members from it to examine the aforementioned map and sea levels of the commune. to be inspected outside the shipyard187 etc. It is understood that this should be accepted, but only so long as the respective skippers of the aforementioned return fleet have first arrived at what will be the heaviest shipping traffic, and in the meantime, the galley Perkijt should be sent first to fetch some fattened sheep from Robben Island, so that the skipper of that ship could also be present, as having helped to locate the aforementioned outside the shipyard with the Commander. Regarding the disputes between the aforementioned sub-merchant De Ligne and his skipper Jan Munt, who complained to each other about many improper matters, it has been decided to have these matters further investigated by a committee from the Breden Council, in order to determine, at a further meeting, in the best interest of the highest order, how to allocate this costly return trip as much as is deemed most appropriate by the Reverend Company.
The following were then nominated and elected as the committee: The Reverend Hr. Vice Admiral Dirck Knibber; the chief merchant Jan Abramsz Valck, and the skipper Pieter Jonasz, in the presence of the fiscal of the Fort de Goede Hope, Abraham Gabbema.
Thus done and resolved, in the Fort de Goede Hope on the date and year as above.
[Signed:] ANDRIES FRISIUS.
188
[Signed:] JAN VAN RIEBEECK. 1661.
[Signed:] DIRCK DE KNIBBER.
[Signed:] PIETER JONASSEN.
[Signed:] JAN ABRAHAMSZ.
[Signed:] JOCHEM CLAESEN.
[Signed:] REYNOUT VENHUISEN.
[Signed:] JACOB ENTE.
[Signed:] ELBERT KES.
[Signed:] JAN MUNT.
[Signed:] ROELOFF DE MAN.
[Signed:] PIETER DANIELSEN.
[Signed:] ABRAHAM GABBEMA. 1661.
[Signed:] H. LACUS, Secrets. 1661
And furthermore, some stowaways were also found in the Batavia fleet. After careful deliberation, the following was unanimously decided:
Firstly, regarding the clergy, they will be distributed on the fleet, namely:
The bishop, Monsr. Estienne, and the priest, Monsr. Fadijn, at the table in the cabin, and outside the cabin his cherurgine, Frère Patte, with the aforementioned bishop's servant, named Fantasie, on the ship Malacca.
The priest, Monsr. Davroult at the table in the cabin with Mr. Vice Commander and his servant Cordolet, with Lieutenant de la Cloche, outside the cabin on the ship 't Hof van Zelant.
The priest, Monsr. de Fontain, at the cabin table next to his servant Binaire, outside the cabin on the ship De Nagelboom.
The young priest, Monsr. Bartomet, at the cabin table next to a French carpenter outside the cabin on the ship Amersfoort.
The second captain of the aforementioned French ship, Monsr. Carcadiou, at the cabin table next to Monsr. la Roche and the nephew of the appointed captain, outside the cabin on the ship Orangie.
That furthermore, all the stowaways from Batavia (up to 10 in number) should first be brought ashore to the fort, and then, upon arriving from the Fatherland, sent back again with the passing ships, to serve as an example to those who might think they are hiding from the Cape in the fleet heading for the fatherland.
That the two helmsmen of the ship Mars, due to her unbound, disembarked, and unmanned compartments, etc., will also be transferred, and in return, the return ship will be provided, namely:
In place of Gerrit Pietersz Meijfroo, helmsman, with the second skipper of the ship Malacca, named Jacob Claesz Le Bleuw, next to the reigning skipper, whom helmsman Gerrit Pietersz will transfer to the ship Malacca without command.185
And the helmsman Joost …186 of the ship Hoff van Zeelandt will again serve as chief helmsman on the Mars, against helmsman Speelman, who will also go to the Hoff van Zeelandt without command.
While this meeting was taking place, Com[m]andeur Riebeeck also showed that he had certain maps drawn up and marks of an outside channel just around the corner of this Taeffel Bay, which he had surveyed with the skipper of the galley, in order to be able to anchor in the strong south-easterly winds (this Taeffel Bay in this monsoon often blowing strongly) and thus to be less forced to sail away from this bay. And because this raft was equipped with many old and experienced skippers from the East Company, he had requested some committee members from it to examine the aforementioned map and sea levels of the commune. to be inspected outside the shipyard187 etc. It is understood that this should be accepted, but only so long as the respective skippers of the aforementioned return fleet have first arrived at what will be the heaviest shipping traffic, and in the meantime, the galley Perkijt should be sent first to fetch some fattened sheep from Robben Island, so that the skipper of that ship could also be present, as having helped to locate the aforementioned outside the shipyard with the Commander. Regarding the disputes between the aforementioned sub-merchant De Ligne and his skipper Jan Munt, who complained to each other about many improper matters, it has been decided to have these matters further investigated by a committee from the Breden Council, in order to determine, at a further meeting, in the best interest of the highest order, how to allocate this costly return trip as much as is deemed most appropriate by the Reverend Company.
The following were then nominated and elected as the committee: The Reverend Hr. Vice Admiral Dirck Knibber; the chief merchant Jan Abramsz Valck, and the skipper Pieter Jonasz, in the presence of the fiscal of the Fort de Goede Hope, Abraham Gabbema.
Thus done and resolved, in the Fort de Goede Hope on the date and year as above.
[Signed:] ANDRIES FRISIUS.
188
[Signed:] JAN VAN RIEBEECK. 1661.
[Signed:] DIRCK DE KNIBBER.
[Signed:] PIETER JONASSEN.
[Signed:] JAN ABRAHAMSZ.
[Signed:] JOCHEM CLAESEN.
[Signed:] REYNOUT VENHUISEN.
[Signed:] JACOB ENTE.
[Signed:] ELBERT KES.
[Signed:] JAN MUNT.
[Signed:] ROELOFF DE MAN.
[Signed:] PIETER DANIELSEN.
[Signed:] ABRAHAM GABBEMA. 1661.
[Signed:] H. LACUS, Secrets. 1661
Original Dutch transcription
Bij d’ E. Hr. Commissaris Andries Frisius den Breden Raet van sijn E. vlote aen landt sijnde beroepen, doch den ondercoopman Samuel de Lingne182 in de raetcaemer aengewesen sijn sitplaetse hem na d’ ordre van haer Ed. tot Batavia als Lit van den Breden Raedt te nemen die cessie, vermits eenige questien tegen sijn schipper geweijgert, gelijck onderwege tusschen Batavia ende hier mede gedaen heeft ende dies sonder hem met de besoignes dan voortvarende, mitsgaders bij gemt. sijn E. de vergaderingh voorgedraegen ‘t gene haer Ed. van Batavia per derselver missive van den 13 December ao. verleden aen den Commandeur Riebeeck sijn schrijvende over ‘t consent gedragen wegen de passagie na ‘t Patria aen de France geestelijckheijt hier met haer schip de Mareschal verongeluckt.
Ende wijders van sommige versteeckelingen in de vloot van Batavia mede gecoomen & Is daerop na goet overlegh eenparigh ‘t volgende besloten:
Eerstelijck aangaende de geestelyckheijt dat die op de vloot sullen verdeelt worden, als te weten:
Den bisschop monsr. Estienne beneffens den priester monsr. Fadijn, aen de taeffel in de kajuijt ende buijten de cajuijt sijn cherurgijn Frere Patte, met de knecht van voorsz bisschop genaemt Fantasie op ‘t schip Malacca.
Den priester monsr. Davroult aen de taeffel in de cajuijt bij d’ Hr. Vice Commandeur ende sijn knecht Cordolet met den lieutenant de la Cloche buijten de cajuijt op ‘t schip ‘t Hof van Zelant .
Den priester monsr. de Fontain aen de cajuijtstaeffel neffens sijn knecht Binaire buijten de cajuijt op ‘t schip de Nagelboom.
Den jongen priester monsr. Bartomet aen de cajuijtstaeffelneffens183 een Frans timmerman buijten de cajuijt op het schip Amersfoort.
Den 2en capitain van voorsz Frans schip genaemt monsr. Carcadiou184 aen de cajuijtstaeffel neffens monsr. la Roche ende den neeff van den gemt. capt. buijten de cajuijt op ‘t schip Orangie.
Dat wijders alle de versteeckelingen van Batavia (tot 10 in ‘t getal bevonden) altemalen ten aldereersten gesloten sullen aen landt in ‘t fort gebracht, ende hier na met de passerende schepen uijt ‘t Patria aencomende, weder te rugh gesonden worden, om sulcx oock tot een exempel te laten dienen, die haer van de Caep in de vloot na ‘t vaderlant souden meenen te versteecken.
Dat mede de 2 stuurluijden van ‘t schip de Mars vermits haer ongebonden, gedebaucheert ende inobediente comportementen &a., sullen overgeset ende daertegen dat retourschip weder besorgt worden als te weten:
In plaetse van Gerrit Pietersz Meijfroo stuijrmanmet den 2en schipper van ‘t schip Malacca genaemt Jacob Claesz Le Bleuw, naest den regerenden schipperwelckenstuurman GerritPieterszop ‘t schip Malacca sal overgaen buijten bedieninge.185
Ende den stuurman Joost …186 van ‘t schip het Hoff van Zeelandt weder voor opperstuurman op de Mars tegen den stuurman Speelman die op ‘t Hoff van Zeelandt mede sonder bedieningh sal gaen.
Staende dese vergaderinge bij den Com[m]andeur Riebeeck oock verthoont sijnde seeckere caerten bij hem doen maken ende mercken van een buijten rhede, even om den hoeck van dese Taeffelbay by denselven met den schipper van ‘t galjodt opgesogt om by harde Z. ooste winden (dese Taeffelbay in dit mousson veeltijts styff uijtwaijende) te mogen anckeren ende alsoo te min gedrongen te sijn om van dese baij in ‘t aenseijlen te verdryven, Ende dies vermits dese vlote met veel oude ervare schippers van d’ E. Compe. versien is, versoght hebbende eenige gecommitteerde uijt deselve om voorsz sijn gemaeckte caerte ende zeespiegeltjens van de gemt. buijten rheede te mogen worden naergesien187 &a., Soo is verstaen sulcx aen te neemen doch soo lange daermede noch te supercederen tot de respective schippers van de gemelte retourvlote, voor eerst wat door het druckste scheepswerck sullen gecoomen sijn ende ondertusschen het galjodt de Perkijt ten eersten af te senden om eenige vet geweyde schaepen van ‘t Robbeneijlandt te laeten haelen, om den schipper van dien als dan daer oock bij te mogen hebben, als hebbende voorsz buyten rheede met gemt. Commandeur helpen opsoecken.
Ende belangende de querellen tusschen voorgemelten ondercoopman de Ligne, ende syn schipper Jan Munt, die malcanderen over veele onbehoorlycke dingen beclagen, Is goetgevonden die questien door gecom[m]itteerde uyt den gemt. Breden Raet nader te laten ondersoecken, omme op ‘t een ende ‘t ander by nader vergaderinge tot de meeste segouriteyt, van dese costelycke retourvlote sodaenig vorder te disponneren als ten meesten dienste van d’ E. Compe. bevonden sal worden te vereyssen.
Wes dan tot gemt. commissie syn genomineert ende vercooren: D’ E. Hr. vice admirael Dirck Knibber; den oppercoopman Jan Abramsz Valck, ende den schipper Pieter Jonasz, ten overstaen van den fiscael des forts de Goede Hope Abraham Gabbema.
Aldus gedaen ende geresolveert, in ‘t Fort de Goede Hope ten dage ende jare als boven.
[Signed:] ANDRIES FRISIUS.
188
[Signed:] JAN VAN RIEBEECK. 1661.
[Signed:] DIRCK DE KNIBBER.
[Signed:] PIETER JONASSEN.
[Signed:] JAN ABRAHAMSZ.
[Signed:] JOCHEM CLAESEN.
[Signed:] REYNOUT VENHUISEN.
[Signed:] JACOB ENTE.
[Signed:] ELBERT KES.
[Signed:] JAN MUNT.
[Signed:] ROELOFF DE MAN.
[Signed:] PIETER DANIELSEN.
[Signed:] ABRAHAM GABBEMA. 1661.
[Signed:] H. LACUS, Secrets. 1661
Ende wijders van sommige versteeckelingen in de vloot van Batavia mede gecoomen & Is daerop na goet overlegh eenparigh ‘t volgende besloten:
Eerstelijck aangaende de geestelyckheijt dat die op de vloot sullen verdeelt worden, als te weten:
Den bisschop monsr. Estienne beneffens den priester monsr. Fadijn, aen de taeffel in de kajuijt ende buijten de cajuijt sijn cherurgijn Frere Patte, met de knecht van voorsz bisschop genaemt Fantasie op ‘t schip Malacca.
Den priester monsr. Davroult aen de taeffel in de cajuijt bij d’ Hr. Vice Commandeur ende sijn knecht Cordolet met den lieutenant de la Cloche buijten de cajuijt op ‘t schip ‘t Hof van Zelant .
Den priester monsr. de Fontain aen de cajuijtstaeffel neffens sijn knecht Binaire buijten de cajuijt op ‘t schip de Nagelboom.
Den jongen priester monsr. Bartomet aen de cajuijtstaeffelneffens183 een Frans timmerman buijten de cajuijt op het schip Amersfoort.
Den 2en capitain van voorsz Frans schip genaemt monsr. Carcadiou184 aen de cajuijtstaeffel neffens monsr. la Roche ende den neeff van den gemt. capt. buijten de cajuijt op ‘t schip Orangie.
Dat wijders alle de versteeckelingen van Batavia (tot 10 in ‘t getal bevonden) altemalen ten aldereersten gesloten sullen aen landt in ‘t fort gebracht, ende hier na met de passerende schepen uijt ‘t Patria aencomende, weder te rugh gesonden worden, om sulcx oock tot een exempel te laten dienen, die haer van de Caep in de vloot na ‘t vaderlant souden meenen te versteecken.
Dat mede de 2 stuurluijden van ‘t schip de Mars vermits haer ongebonden, gedebaucheert ende inobediente comportementen &a., sullen overgeset ende daertegen dat retourschip weder besorgt worden als te weten:
In plaetse van Gerrit Pietersz Meijfroo stuijrmanmet den 2en schipper van ‘t schip Malacca genaemt Jacob Claesz Le Bleuw, naest den regerenden schipperwelckenstuurman GerritPieterszop ‘t schip Malacca sal overgaen buijten bedieninge.185
Ende den stuurman Joost …186 van ‘t schip het Hoff van Zeelandt weder voor opperstuurman op de Mars tegen den stuurman Speelman die op ‘t Hoff van Zeelandt mede sonder bedieningh sal gaen.
Staende dese vergaderinge bij den Com[m]andeur Riebeeck oock verthoont sijnde seeckere caerten bij hem doen maken ende mercken van een buijten rhede, even om den hoeck van dese Taeffelbay by denselven met den schipper van ‘t galjodt opgesogt om by harde Z. ooste winden (dese Taeffelbay in dit mousson veeltijts styff uijtwaijende) te mogen anckeren ende alsoo te min gedrongen te sijn om van dese baij in ‘t aenseijlen te verdryven, Ende dies vermits dese vlote met veel oude ervare schippers van d’ E. Compe. versien is, versoght hebbende eenige gecommitteerde uijt deselve om voorsz sijn gemaeckte caerte ende zeespiegeltjens van de gemt. buijten rheede te mogen worden naergesien187 &a., Soo is verstaen sulcx aen te neemen doch soo lange daermede noch te supercederen tot de respective schippers van de gemelte retourvlote, voor eerst wat door het druckste scheepswerck sullen gecoomen sijn ende ondertusschen het galjodt de Perkijt ten eersten af te senden om eenige vet geweyde schaepen van ‘t Robbeneijlandt te laeten haelen, om den schipper van dien als dan daer oock bij te mogen hebben, als hebbende voorsz buyten rheede met gemt. Commandeur helpen opsoecken.
Ende belangende de querellen tusschen voorgemelten ondercoopman de Ligne, ende syn schipper Jan Munt, die malcanderen over veele onbehoorlycke dingen beclagen, Is goetgevonden die questien door gecom[m]itteerde uyt den gemt. Breden Raet nader te laten ondersoecken, omme op ‘t een ende ‘t ander by nader vergaderinge tot de meeste segouriteyt, van dese costelycke retourvlote sodaenig vorder te disponneren als ten meesten dienste van d’ E. Compe. bevonden sal worden te vereyssen.
Wes dan tot gemt. commissie syn genomineert ende vercooren: D’ E. Hr. vice admirael Dirck Knibber; den oppercoopman Jan Abramsz Valck, ende den schipper Pieter Jonasz, ten overstaen van den fiscael des forts de Goede Hope Abraham Gabbema.
Aldus gedaen ende geresolveert, in ‘t Fort de Goede Hope ten dage ende jare als boven.
[Signed:] ANDRIES FRISIUS.
188
[Signed:] JAN VAN RIEBEECK. 1661.
[Signed:] DIRCK DE KNIBBER.
[Signed:] PIETER JONASSEN.
[Signed:] JAN ABRAHAMSZ.
[Signed:] JOCHEM CLAESEN.
[Signed:] REYNOUT VENHUISEN.
[Signed:] JACOB ENTE.
[Signed:] ELBERT KES.
[Signed:] JAN MUNT.
[Signed:] ROELOFF DE MAN.
[Signed:] PIETER DANIELSEN.
[Signed:] ABRAHAM GABBEMA. 1661.
[Signed:] H. LACUS, Secrets. 1661