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Entry number
245
Date
1660-05-01
Year
1660

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The skippers of the return flutes Voogelesang and Hilversum, as well as those of the flute Loenen, summoned to land by the Commander to reinforce the Council, and read over and communicated in a meeting the letters of My Lords on the 17th from the fatherland to the Commander and the Council here, as well as those written to the aforementioned chiefs of the return ships to and from, specifically regarding the risk of those ships reaching År, that sijl.139, because of the English garrison on St. Helena, will have to pass that island this year. Also behind and north of IJssel and Scotsland around År. notwithstanding the contrary order of Batavia that is being, and that My Lords the Governor General and Council of India also addressed to the Commander and the Council, in consideration of further information here, in their Ed. latest letter of the 17th of January passato, the same Commander and the Council therefore also qualified in these last two return letters their given orders that any changes in this regard would be deemed necessary in the best interests of the E. Compe., Thus the matter has been properly ventilated, understood in the piece of further order or changes etc. not to step on the aforementioned last two return whistles, as the very clearest instructions from My Lords on the 17th were ready for them, better than could be put into practice at that time, but that we will fully adhere to this, stating expressly, among other things, that the island will not be touched at all and will also be sailed around the outside, understanding that by August 15th they hope to be unobserved in the ports of the homeland for a day, 5 to 6 minutes or more, and that otherwise they will be able to enter the Canal by later arrival, and if so, the commanded return whistles On Tuesday, if the weather and wind permit, we will set sail and sail towards Corvo and Flores, depending on whether there is good or bad weather between here and there, then we will be able to know best whether we will have enough time to sail over or too close to sail behind. It has been understood that this will be left to the disposition of the Broad Council to take the aforementioned two return whistles there, since it is customary to plan the fixed courses to the outside or inside from there, and then, as mentioned above, also depending on the speed we will have had from here, we will be able to decide best what time we will have in one or the other to catch up with Comps. Orders will be forthcoming, and with confidence they will endeavor to promote the utmost service of the E. Compe. and the safety of the aforementioned two return fleets.

Furthermore, it was discussed in Council that the Loenen flute, having been safely unloaded for the Cape, is now almost completely ballasted again, after having previously, on the orders of My Lord Sterthemius, sailed here with its full load, first on the forward and now most recently on the return fleet. His affairs have been completely discharged, as the aforementioned two fleets arrived here safely, the first on the 20th March pass. already after having left the Patria, as well as these last 2 on the 4th or 5th of this month are also planning to leave for there, in addition to the aforementioned Loenen, in the meantime my Lord Sterthemius was sent to the Sandanhabaij to purchase goods & such. which, because the departure of the Hottentoes by land turned out to be fruitless, according to the report of the chiefs of Loenen last noted in the Cap's daily register on the 23rd of March, and that for that purpose, in accordance with the written order left by My Lord Sterthemius aforesaid, it cannot be of any use there at present either, since none of the inhabitants mentioned in this regard were granted freedom by the last person who came there. and have been heard, and we also understand from various Hottentoos that most of them are going hither and thither: to trade with us again here, etc., in which there will be no trade, and consequently it is seen as nothing other than that the fluyt Loenen, going there according to the aforementioned E. order, would only end up making a fruitless journey, except that it is also better and the E. Compe. it would be more profitable to lure the nation to the ford, because the beast would have to be transported at great expense and risk of death on the way, etc. And in consequence the Council then adopted one and the other, having judged the sending there to the end to stop the aforementioned, and furthermore, while this meeting was in summary, received the latest general letters from My Lords the 17th from Patria, which in them among other things order the galley the Perkit, made for this residence, but not yet here, but by the prince together with the ships Musquaet and Nagelboom nor may they remain behind for a while, to send them, if possible, to further explore the island of St. Helena Nova for the reasons stated above, and which time, after the aforementioned long wait, would eventually elapse in order to bring the news to their Honor at Batavia with the upcoming May ships or earlier, so that they could then be used for the return fleet of this year to depart from there in December for the homeland, etc.

And also read what My Lords the Governor-General and the Honourable Lords Councillors of India wrote on the latter date of January 17th, with the aforementioned two return flights, namely that their Honors wish to entrust with the aforementioned Lord Sterthemius, having understood the intention of the English to St. Helena here, will have taken counsel and will have the aforementioned whistle Loenen sail alongside the fleet from the Cape to St. Helena to convey their high esteemed Ed. and to advise us on the English situation there, judging that this could have been done very easily (note) without wasting much time, as the time that would arrive in Batavia a little later, which certain (say their superior Ed.) would not be wasted, is perfectly evident in how much both our Lord Majors from the fatherland and Our Highness Ovrichij, who had recently been sent from India, are concerned about their situation, leaving it to a similar return for their return ships as the old St. Helena was, and the new St. Helena might be again.

Thus the Commander of the Council reinforced with the foregoing, all of the foregoing being taken into consideration and proposed to advise conclusively on what will be most important here and which will be of the greatest benefit to the E. Compe. and meeting140 of our Lord Mayoress and High Authority will come to stretch the intention of India, namely whether Loenen should be sent first to Batavia or whether they should be sent to St. Helena Nova, as aforementioned, in more detail, since going to St. Helena alone is considered too hasty, and as one does not yet know whether the Perkitje will also be available in time to carry out this investigation this season, besides the many inconveniences it can overcome en route at sea, etc., and because of which the aforementioned upcoming return fleet could remain frustrated, if the weather nears the Cape, then of the aforementioned discovery they can serve. On which everyone had contributed his own opinion, it was unanimously decided that for the benefit of the E. Compe. it would be best to send Loenen, instead of Batavia, first to investigate St. Helena Nova, in order that their Ed. might have custody of it at Batavia before sending further return ships, etc., because Loenen was also more different than the Perckitjen, which would have to be sent with at least 30 heads going there, because their Ed. think they are from the Fatherland. The island should not only be held by the Portuguese but also well fortified, and therefore the chiefs should take every care, etc.

Having presented his limited rice allowance to the skipper of the return trip, Vogelesang, in Raede, and having received approximately 40 more men than he would have been provided for in Batavia, he now has 117 heads instead of 80. He is currently in possession of only three lasts, and consumes little more than 1.5 lasts each month, as well as the additional two lasts requested, so as not to leave him short on his journey, we understand that from this allowance we will provide him with, in addition to his request, half a pint of Spanish wine for him and a half pint for the Hilversum trip. The skipper, having been charged with certain acts of cruelty and bold resistance committed by two sailors named Joost Joostz of Amsterdam, boatswain, and Dirck Jansz Buijsen, captain, against the chief and second mate in the squadron of their command, etc., it was decided that they should be interrogated today by a commissioner, and if found guilty, at the aforementioned skipper's request, the fiscal should be allowed to come ashore, along with the two people who hid them at Hilversum from Batavia, in order to proceed further in such a manner as may be deemed appropriate.

Thus done, arrested, and resolved in the Ford of Good Hope on the day and year as above.

[Signed:] JAN VAN RIEBEECK. 1660.

[Signed:] ROBBERT RAM.

[Signed:] JAN SCHRAEL.

[Signed:] H. FRANCKEN.

[Signed:] ROELOFF DE MAN.

[Signed:] ABRAHAM GABBEMA. 1660.

[Signed:] PITER EVRARD.

[Signed:] H. LACUS, Secrets.

Original Dutch transcription

De schippers van de retourfluijten Voogelesang ende Hilversum als oock die van ‘t fluijtjen Loenen tot versterckinge des Raadts door den Commandeur aen landt ontbooden, ende in vergaederinge overleesen ende gecommuniceert synde de brieven van Myn Heeren de 17e uijt ‘t vaederlandt soo aen den Commandr. en de Raedt alhier als die aen de voorsz opperhooffden der voor ende nae retourschepen geschreven synde eijgentlijck aengaende ‘t gundt deselve scheepen is raeckende &a.,dat sijl.139 vermits der Engelsche besettinge op St. Helena , do. eijlandt dit jaer sullen hebben verbij te lopen, Item oock achter ende benoorden IJer ende Schodtlandt om &a. onaengesien de contrarie ordre van Batavia die sijl. sijn hebbende, ende dat oock Myn Heeren den Gouverneur Generael ende Raeden van India aan den Commandeur en de Raedt uyt bedenckinge van naeder tijdinge alhier, bij haer Ed. jongste schrijven van den 17en Januarij passato, denselven Commandeur en de Raedt derhalven oock syn qualificeerende in dese laeste twee retourfluijten haere gegeven ordres dienaengaende soodaenige veranderinge te moogen maecken als ten meesten dienste van d’ E. Compe. bevonden soude worden te vereysschen, Soo is de saecke nae behooren geventileert synde verstaen in ‘t stuck van nader ordre off veranderinge &a. voor de meergemelte twee laaste retourfluijten niet te treden, als leggende eene soo claere instructie alhier van Mijn Heeren de 17e voor deselve gereet, beter als bij dien soude cunnen gepractiseert worden maer dat ons daer geheel aen sullen gedraegen meldende onder anderen wel expresselijck dat het eijlandt versz gants niet aengedaen ende oock buijten om geseijlt sal worden, verstaende soo deselve per tout Augustij een dag 5 a 6 min off meer onbegrepen in de haevenen des vaderlants hopen te weesen ende dat andersints by laeter aencomst t’ Canael binnen door sullen moogen neemen, ende alsoo de gemt. retourfluijten Dingsdag aenstaende Godes weer ende wint toelaetende staen t’ zeijl te gaen ende syluijden omtrent Corvo ende Flores coomende aen de voor ofte tegenspoedt tusschen hier en daer als dan best sullen cunnen weeten off haer tyts genoeg sal over ofte te cordt schieten om achter om te seijlen, Soo is verstaen dat selve te laeten aen de dispositie des Breeden Raedts van voorsz 2 retourfluijten aldaer te neemen, vermits men gewoon is van daer de vaste courssen tot buijten om off binnen deur te beraemen, ende sullende dan gelijck voorseijt oock nae de spoet die se van hier sullen hebben gehadt, best cunnen weeten te overleggen, wat tijt haer in ‘t een off’t ander tot naecoomingh van Comps. ordre sal coomen over te schieten, met vertrouwen deselve den meesten dienst van d’ E. Compe. ende segouriteijt der gemelte 2 retourfluijten sullen trachten te bevorderen.

Wijders in Raede overleght dat jegenwoordig het fluijtjen Loenen van syn ingehadt hebbende goet voor de Caep t’ eenemael gelost, ende nu bijnae weder wel geballast is nadat al voren op d’ ordre van Mijn Heere Sterthemius sijn aenweesen alhier met de volle lading eerst op d’ voor ende nu jongst op de nae retourvlote gecruijst hebbende, sijn dingen t’ eenemael heeft afgedaen, vermits de gemelte 2 vloten behouden hier gecoomen ende d’ eerste op den 20en Meerdt passo. al na t’ Patria vertrocken is, mitsgaeders deese 2 laaste den 4en off 5en deser aenstaende oock derwaerts staen te vertrecken, booven dat voorsz Loenen tusschen wijlen door opgemelte myn Heere Sterthemius is in de Sandanhabaij gesonden geweest, tot opcoop van bestiael &a. ‘t welck vermits der Hottentoos vertreck te landt in vruchteloos is uytgevallen, conform ‘t rappordt van Loenens opperhooffden op den 23 Meert laast in ‘t Caeps dagregister genoteert, Ende dat ‘t selve ten dien eijnde conform de gelaeten schriftelijcke ordre van Mijn Heere Sterthemius voornoempt aldaer voor jegenwoordig oock geen dienst can doen, alsoo geen van de genoemde inwoonders daeromtrent door de laast van daer gecoomen vrijel. en sijn vernoomen, ende wij oock uijt verscheijden Hottentoos verstaen deselve meest alle herwaerts aen sijn sackkende: om met ons weder alhier te handelen &a., sulcx daerin handel niet te doen sal wesen, ende ingevolge niet anders ingesien wordende als dat ‘t fluijtjen Loenen nae voorsz Sijn E. ordre al derwaerts gaende maer een vruchteloose reijse soude coomen te maecken, behalven daer het oock beter ende d’ E. Compe. profitabler sal weesen de natie aen ‘t fordt te locken, omdat het bestiael met grootte costen ende perijckel van sterven onderwegen soude moeten overgevoert worden &a., Ende oversulcx dan by den Raedt ‘t een en ‘t ander ingenoomen, g’oordeelt sijnde de besendinge derwaerts ten eijnde voorsz te staecken, ende wijders staende dese vergaederinge gerusumeert, de jongste generale brieven becoomen van Mijn Heeren de 17e uyt Patria welcke in deselve onder anderen ordonneeren, ‘t galjodt de Perkit , voor deese residentie gemaeckt, doch noch niet hier weesende, maer door de vorst neffens de schepen Musquaet en Nagelboom noch wel een wyl mogen achter blijven, by goede occasie te senden om het eijlandt St. Helena nova nader te laeten opsoecken om redenen daerby gesteldt, ende welcken tijt na voorsz galjodt lange wachtende t’ eenemael soude coomen te verloopen om met d’ aenstaende Meijschepen ofte wel vroeger noch de tijdinge aen haer Ed. op Batavia te brengen, om noch te mogen dienen voor de retourvlote desen jaere in December van daer na ‘t vaderlandt te vertrecken &a.,

Ende oock gelesen ‘t geene Mijn Heeren de Gouverneur Generael ende d’ E.E. Heeren Raaden van India schrijven per derselver jongste van de 17 Januarij, met de voorgemt. 2 retourfluijten naementlijck dat haer Ed. willen vertrouwen met gemt. Heere Sterthemius ‘t voorneemen der Engelsche aen St. Helena alhier verstaen hebbende, te rade sal geworden sijn ‘t voorsz fluijtjen Loenen neffens de vloote van de Caep nae St. Helena sal mede laeten seijlen hebben om haer hooggedachte Ed. ende ons advis te geven van ‘t gedoente der Engelsche aldaer, als oordelende sulcx seer gevouglyck soude hebben cunnen geschieden (nota) sonder daermede veel te versuijmen, als eenlijck den tijt dat wat laeter op Batavia soude coomen die seecker (seggen haer meergedachte Ed.) daer bij niet onnudt soude weesen besteedt, bij welck een ende ander dan volcoomentlijck is blijckende hoe veele soo wel onse Heeren Maijores uyt ‘t vaederlandt als oock onse Hooge Ovricheijdt versz uyt India haer syn gelegen laetende aen een soodaenig ander rendevous voor derselver retourscheepen als oudt St. Helena is geweest, ende ‘t nieuwe St. Helena weder soude moogen weesen,

Soo heeft den Commandeur den Raedt versterckt met als vooren, allen ‘t vorige in consideratie gegeven ende voorgeleijdt daerop conclusive te adviseeren, wat hier ‘t swaerste sal weegen ende welck tot meesten dienste van d’ E. Compe. ende treffninge140 onser Heeren Mayores, ende Hoge Ovricheijts intentie van India sal coomen te strecken, naementlijck off men Loenen sal laeten gaen ten eersten nae Batavia dan off wel affvaerdigen om St. Helena Nov a gelijck voorsz nader te laeten opsoecken, dewyle nae out St. Helena alleen te gaen wat te hasardeux g’oordeelt wordt, ende gelijck verseyt men noch niet en weedt off het Perkitjen oock tijts genoech coomen sal om dit saijsoen dat ondersoeck noch te doen, behalven de veele inconvenientien die het onderwegen op zee mede can overcomen &a. ende daerdeur de gemelte aenstaende retourvlote soude cunnen gefrusteert blijven, bij verlegen weer de Caep verbij raeckende haer dan van de gemelte ontdeckenge te dienen. Op ‘t welcke elck ‘t zijne ingebracht hebbende, is eenstemmig g’oordeelt tot dienst van d’ E. Compe. best te weesen Loenen , in plaets van Batavia vooreerst aff te senden, tot ondersoeck nae St. Helena Nova , ten eijnde haer Ed. tot Batavia daervan voor ‘t affsenden van meergesijde aenstaende retourschepen doch mogen cundtschap hebben &a., dewijle dat Loenen oock wadt diffenciver is als ‘t Perckitjen , ‘t welck ten minsten met 30 coppen derwaerts gaende, soude moeten gemandt worden, omdat haer Ed. uyt ‘t Patria meenen do. eijlandt niet alleen van de Portugesen gepossideert maer oock wel gefortificeert mocht weesen, ende daerom bij d’ opperhooffden al wat omsigtig sal dienen gegaen &a.

Bij den schipper van de retourfluijdt Vogelesang in Raede voorgesteldt sijnde sijne soberheijt van rijs, ende dat omtrent 40 man meer overgecregen heeft, als voor welcke hy op Batavia soude geprovideert sijn, naementlyck in plaets van 80, 117 coppen, sulcx hy jegenwoordig maer noch schaers drie lasten is inhebbende, ende alle maanden wijnig min als l 1/2 last consumeert mitsgaeders volgens dien versoeckt om noch twee lasten, soo is om denselven van dies op sijn reijse niet verlegen te laeten, verstaen hem daermede uyt forts provisien t’ accommoderen neffens oock op desselfs versoeck een halff aem Spaensche wijn, voor hem ende een do. voor de fluijdt Hilversum.

Welckers schipper voorgedraegen hebbende seeckere moetwilligheden ende stoute tegenstrevingen, gepleeght van 2 matroosen genaempt, Joost Joostz van Amsterdam bootsman ende Dirck Jansz Buijsen bossr. tegen den opper ende onderstuurman in ‘t stuck haerder commando &a., Soo is verstaen deselve heeden door gecommitteerde te laeten verhooren, ende schuldig bevonden wordende, op voorsz schippers versoeck door den fiscael te laeten aen landt coomen, neffens de 2 persoonen, die haer op do. Hilversum van Batavia hebben versteecken, omme hiernae daerinne soodaenig vorders te procederen, als bevonden sal worden te behoren.

Aldus gedaen, g’arresteert, ende geresolveert in ‘t Fordt de Goede Hope ten dage ende jaere als boven.

[Signed:] JAN VAN RIEBEECK. 1660.

[Signed:] ROBBERT RAM.

[Signed:] JAN SCHRAEL.

[Signed:] H. FRANCKEN.

[Signed:] ROELOFF DE MAN.

[Signed:] ABRAHAM GABBEMA. 1660.

[Signed:] PITER EVRARD.

[Signed:] H. LACUS, Secrets.